Thread:Ain Soph Aur/@comment-5193586-20130128174810/@comment-4556304-20130129220634

Since we're getting into the whole KG and KT matter now, here's how I see it.

The only KG that can be obtainable without going for resets are elemental ones. Like stated above, every 80 kills would represent a reset. But here's where I diverge from this differently. I see there being normal Elemental KG (which are composed of two basic elements; Mokuton, Hyouton, Yoton). And then there are the Stand-alone Elemental KG (which are not composed of any of the five basic elements, but are merely an element in itself; Koton, Shoton, Jiton, Bakuton). How I see it, EKG require four resets, or 320 kills to master. SKG require two resets, or 160 kills to master. The maximum you can claim from oro kills alone though, should be two. But the oro kill path would depend on if the person has already gone down the path of reseting or not. As well as if they have decided to stop reseting. We can discuss into this a bit more, since I want to go ahead with the other thing I want to talk about.

KT on the other hand, definitely require resets or oro kills depending on how powerful they are. Jinton is pretty much a one-hit kill thing, unless you have very specific techniques or methods to counter it. From what I observed, it seems to be auto-claimable for anyone that's become a Tsuchikage. That seems quite a bit unfair, especially since the rest of us have to work for what we want.