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I don't believe anyone was sayign that Sand should not be used by Shinobi of Sunagakure... it is a 'tool' they use, similar to leaves known to Konohagakure, according to the narutopedia.

I don't believe any Sand Shinobi should be stopped from using a tool that is a big asset to thier village. However, the scale of manipilation known to the Jinchuriki of Shukaku is much more versitle. I mean the host can manipilate sand without hand seals, on a gaint scale, and to just a higher degree in total.

Sand Manipilation is not a KG or a release. Sand is just a tool used by Sand Shinobi. But to say that the degree of manipilation one has over it granted by the One-Tail isn't a TBS is rather rediculous in my opinion.

This level of Sand Manipilation would be a TBS and therefor not avaliable to advancing due to the tampering rule. Also if the person strictly learns Sand Manipilation from the Biju that makes it a TBS.

This KT is derived from a TBS. I am not sayign the entire concept of the KT is not usable, but it should not be carried out through manipilating sand. I'd say physical contact yes.

Also if this is possible and all that jive where does the water go? Sense it is absorbed from whatever I take it the sand absorbs it? So the sand would become wet then correct? Which would slow it down sense wet sand is heavier then dry sand.

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 * Kankurō used sand to disguise his puppets, allowing him to make his puppets appear as another person, or as himself, to trick enemies into attacking his puppets instead of him.
 * In the anime, Sasori also used sand to make a clone of himself as shown during his fight with Kankurō when he escaped from Black Ant.
 * In the anime, Temari also utilised sand in her Dust Wind Technique to cause her opponent to lose their footing in battle.
 * Due to the versatility of sand as a weapon, the Third and Fourth Kazekage both crafted their own imitations of sand manipulation via the use of their Magnet Release kekkei genkai to manipulate iron and gold dustrespectively.
 * In the anime, Nagare also creates his own imitation of Gaara's sand manipulation through his Assimilate All Creation Technique using of rock powder.
 * Earth Release users can also manipulate sand in some instances, as seen in the effects of Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique.

It seems sand is used in a supplementary fasion as far as canon wise goes. Besides the Clone (which I believe is filler) sand was used as an object and not really manipilated in the fasion of a release or anything. If it was able to be manipilated to the degree a host of the One-Tail can do it then I would think the Kazekage's would not have had to devolope similar jutsu via the Magnetic Release.

"Sand (砂, Suna), is a versatile material, most often employed by the shinobi originating from Sunagakure forvarious purposes, including numerous supplementary functions ranging from concealment to disguise. However, the tool itself rose to prominence in the hands of thejinchūriki of Shukaku, whom acquired the ability to manipulate sand through the beast, with the most renowned amongst these being Gaara."

Once again, I just have to believe that Sand Manipilation on a Gaara level is a TBS.